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so, are the machines going to become living or intelligent? sentient? should we mimic evolutionary dynamics in trying to make AI, even though we don't have 3.5 billion years?
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Sat, January 19, 2008 - 12:00 AM"mimic evolutionary dynamics"
Well, first we'll have to figure out what's going to be on their menu.
Birth control shouldn't be an issue early on, but to get them kick started we should probably consider giving them a voracious sex drive.
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Sat, January 19, 2008 - 12:15 AMSure! Bring on the singularity. -
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Sat, January 19, 2008 - 1:18 PMhave you read kurzweil's book on the singularity, jonathan? at first i really hated the concept and saw in it a kind of veiled mysticism, and now i think that as well, but i also really get that technology may take us to very unexpected places (such as extinction) and we may end up in places we had no way of expecting. -
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 1:38 AMYeah, I read it, and found it rather long-winded, but most of what he has to say is fairly accurate. A lot of the "transhumanists" are IMHO a bit over-confident of the time it will take to get such scientific witchcraft as "downloading" achievable, but when it comes to cybernetics, I agree with Kurzweil that all bets are off. The beauty of cybernetics is that so long as you have sufficient terraflops you should be able to do artificially what nature takes millions of years to do; evolve an AI. You just need to get that feedback loop started (a cybernetic entity that can improve itself). Then you are off to the races. But frankly I have no idea what a self-evolved AI would look like. I can't see it having much of a personality. It might resemble a glorified google.
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Sat, January 19, 2008 - 12:20 AMI think an application like "SETI at home" might have a good bet at becoming the first AI. Something everyone with a net-connected x-box or PC/Mac could join into. It would have to self-evolve in most respects, and would very likely fit the bill as an "alien intelligence".
"I am Baron Samedi and you have slain my horse" ....Neuromancer -
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Sat, January 19, 2008 - 12:23 AM"I am Baron Samedi and you have slain my horse" ....Neuromancer
Woops, got my quote wrong. That would have been "Count Zero". And the full quote is "My name," a voice said, and Bobby wanted to scream when he realized that it came from his own mouth, "is Samedi, and you have slain my cousin's horse". -
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Sat, January 19, 2008 - 1:16 PMi have to say that i just watched a remarkably worthwhile documentary among the extras of the "matrix" movies box set, called "the hard problem: the science behind the matrix." has anyone seen it? the cast is remarkable (chalmers, dennett, kurzweil, et al), and the film is wonderful. even if you didn't like the movies, you should check this documentary out. it talks a lot about artificial life and AI and requirements of consciousness.
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